OMG! You just gave me an idea for Meowth's Party. What about having music-, sound-, and dance-based Pokemon in Meowth's Party? Jigglypuff, Ludicolo, Jynx, Bellossom, Kirlia, Chatot, Chimecho, and so on could appear in the background and they would dance and make music. The other Pokemon who don't make music and dance could just cheer in the crowd just like in the Meowth's Party demo.
Perfect. I'd make it Igglybuff so as not to conflict with Jigglypuff possibly being there though. And it could be on stage as a hazard, occasionally putting you to sleep. Loudred could be an amp, Chimecho could be on the upper sides of the arena and chime out damaged notes, etc.
... On the other hand, we could always have Jiggly standing on stage with her marker in hand. That's just to endearing an image. I want it officially in a game, dammit.
Jigglypuff's Final Smash was a bit odd for me. They are not known for inflating to that size - I guess I half expected the marker to be involved somehow as a nod to the anime. At least Meowth can walk on two legs in the Pokemon games and in Brawl as a nod to the anime.
What kind of stage should Meowth's Party be like? Maybe a flat stage like Smashville but with a giant screen in the background like in Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2. That would be cool to show close-ups of the fighters. I also would love to see some Pokemon appear on the stage and attack with their special moves just like in Saffron City.
Since when is Meowth's Party still significant? It was a tech demo and later a special episode included on Pokemon Channel.....and that's it. We're well into the Wii era and most of Smash's Pokemon references come straight from the games, so I doubt Meowth is going to get that kind of recognition aside from being a Pokeball summon.
Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 18, 2009 14:04:13 GMT -5
Uh, Man-Frog? Meowth is one of the few Pokemon (in fact, if I'm not mistaken, one of only two Pokemon, the other being Pikachu) to have continuous relevance in most Pokemon-related media (probably due to his role on the anime, but the point stands firm.) Even if Meowth's Party isn't relevant anymore, Meowth still is.
On an unrelated note, I've got to thinking and I'm going to bump the cap to 6. It's a nice even number and it's more leniant than 5 (the max before you start adding extraneous characters is actually 8 per series. I should know, I had to do the math. We're not getting that high, though, unless someone decides when we've got it all settled that there just aren't enough characters.) Besides, after Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon, there aren't really any series available with enough relevance to add more than 3 characters, so we're probably going to assume a 6x9 roster with every slot filled (random being moved out.) This puts the cap at 54 characters. It's slightly more than the 5x10 we had, but at the same time it also allows in characters who keep getting the shaft for equally important characters.
Uuuuugh..... You're STILL going on about the exact size of the roster/number of newcomers? Christ...
The exact number is meaningless in the long run considering the wild lack of consistency from SSB to Melee to Brawl, and since this supposed to be a dream topic (as Qu pointed out to me before), it shouldn't even inhibit you in the first place.
Yeah, it is a dream topic but if I say I want the Duck Hunt Dog playable, all hell breaks loose. Anyway, here is my list of SSB4 newcomers I hope to see:
Toad - always wanted him in Smash since Melee, hope NSMBWii boosts Toad's chances, it would be interesting to see some NSMBWii-inspired moves from Toad, he could Propeller Spin to recover and throw Iceballs to freeze opponents and pick up/carry opponents around a la SMB2 and NSMBWii
Dixie Kong - I wanted her in Brawl and she almost did, I always loved her in DKC2 and 3 because of her hair spin, she could be like Medusa of the Inhumans by using her hair to fight and to lift/throw opponents and to float like Peach using her hair, she could maybe borrow Tiny Kong's Feather Bow as a projectile weapon
King K. Rool - not sure why I want him but I think he would be interesting if he brings something new to the table... maybe a moveset that combines elements from King K. Rool, Kaptain K. Rool, and Baron K. Roolenstein
Tingle - I also wanted him in Brawl, he could be the Balloon Fighter for Smash instead of an oridinary Balloon Fighter from the NES since he is more well-known and could do more like dropping bombs and rapid-firing Rupees
Takamaru - yeah, another sword fighter but he could shoot fireballs from his sword, no other sword fighters can do that, and he could get a big makeover like Pit did in Brawl
Little Mac - I wanted him in Brawl but he is now more likely thanks to Punch-Out!! for the Wii, Giga Mac would be perfect as his Final Smash, he could be like the Balrog of Smash since he only uses punches and no kicks
Isa (Sin & Punishment 2) - he is basically an updated Saki and he is more recent, so why not? I think he could recover with his jet pack and use his sword/gun weapon to fight like Saki did in Brawl
Isaac's Descendant (Golden Sun DS) - yeah, he is pretty much an updated Isaac (think of him as Isaac wearing different clothes) and he will be the protagonist of the latest Golden Sun game, I think he would be pretty interesting as a magic-based sword fighter who uses Psynergy
Starfy - he is not Japan-only anymore so that makes him a good candidate for Smash, he could spin and fight similar to Kirby but with different special moves, of course
Meowth - he could be the Marth or the Meta Knight of the Pokemon series with his lightning fast scratches and he could use Pay Day in many different ways as part of his moveset
Mewtwo - no need to explain this one, he just need to be improved a bit, especially Confusion and Disable
Gold with Chikorita, Quilava, and Feraligatr - yeah, the so-called Pokemon Rival but I specifically picked Gold because Gold was my first Pokemon game and HeartGold/SoulSilver are coming out next year.... notice the types of Gold's starters? Chikorita vs. Squirtle (grass > water), Quilava vs. Ivysaur (fire > grass), Feraligatr vs. Charizard (water > fire) yeah, he could be Red's rival in Smash
Duck Hunt Dog - yeah, the obligatory WTF retro character like Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. were in Melee and Brawl, he could fight by pointing to a direction so the hunter from the fourth wall would shoot at the spot the dog is pointing at, ducks and clay pigeons could be part of the moveset as well
Mega Man - he is awesome, enough said
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Muddy Mole and Captain Rainbow playable in Smash. They are both very interesting characters. As for third party characters, I wouldn't mind seeing Simon Belmont (as long as he doesn't wear his hideous Judgment outfit), Pac-Man, and Chocobo & Slime (Slime riding on top of Chocobo as one playable character to represent Square Enix). Just please, no more Sonic characters.
Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 19, 2009 1:14:33 GMT -5
I hate to put it so bluntly because I greatly encourage creativity, BUT...
ManFrog, this isn't a dream thread. If you hark back to the days when this thread was made, there was alot of arguing going on about the roster. This thread was intended as a realistic look at the future of the Smash Bros. roster as it stood (and stands.) I have my own website dedicated to this same sort of thing without the restrictions (it's also alot more in-depth.) If this was just about posting every character we want the first post would just be a link to it. This is for realism, not willy-nilly "I like so-and-so, he should be there!" (Actually, that's the reason I'm not adding WTF characters, there's just so much debate on who would be the most realistic because none of them really are.) I expect I've pretty much set myself up for karma drops and backlash in saying so, but I stand firm on this point because it's a point intended to keep us from descending into chaos and lunacy, and so I defy your backlash, because if I let it get to me and lay my restrictions aside, this entire thread will go to Hell in a handbasket for the arguments and nonsense.
nocturnal YL: My current plan is to play Atelier Firis DX now, which online guides suggest is long. Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX will likewise be long (longer than the original too, due to DLC, DX additions and I'll make the best items). I'll maybe play Ys Origin after.
Jun 14, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Not sure about what I'll play after. Another Atelier game will probably be out by then, either completing the Secret series or giving us Arland 5. Either way, I'll probably play those before going elsewhere. Dusk will have to wait for quite a bit…
Jun 14, 2021 10:31:02 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Wondering if I should get Mario Golf at launch or wait a couple of months. I have so many other things to play that my gaming (and wallet) might need a little breathing room.
Jun 17, 2021 9:23:48 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: The problem with playing Hyrule Warriors and a modern Ys game at the same time is that even though the combat feels somewhat similar, the controls are completely different, and I get confused.
Jun 23, 2021 8:57:58 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Yeah I'm here, but kinda vaguely. Sorry, I haven't had too much to say lately.
Jul 8, 2021 11:28:57 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: By the way, I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with OCR on YouTube, but apparently they're dropping an album for a game I grew up on, Jet Force Gemini. Really pumped; I'll post a review when they finish.
Jul 8, 2021 11:30:44 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Or at least when my Top 3 from that game are on the Toobz. Just one more song to go.
Jul 8, 2021 11:31:13 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I feel like I've been neglecting the forum more than usual lately. Been distracted by other things. I'll try to post something when I get the chance.
Jul 16, 2021 10:38:22 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't have time to make posts. Atelier Firis DX takes forever to play. When I'm not playing, I'm in a read-only mode, reading guides and watching (unrelated) videos.
Jul 17, 2021 13:25:38 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: On that note, I'll probably make a review on the whole trilogy, so it will be a while until I talk about these games in details here. I can say Atelier Firis DX has far exceeded my expectation and has taken over Totori as my 3rd fav.
Jul 17, 2021 13:31:06 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Uh, I take that back. Atelier Firis has a lot of merits, but also a lot of drawbacks. It's extremely tedious for 100% completion, and there are all kinds of other flaws. Still good for the exploration aspect and certain plots like Liane's character events.
Aug 9, 2021 13:38:12 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't know where I'd place it. A bit above Atelier Totori? A bit below it? I still think it's pretty good, at any rate. If only they could keep this game's engine but dial back its scale and make a traditional Atelier. Totally not foreshadowing anything.
Aug 9, 2021 13:45:07 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I've finished Ys IX, so I'll be working on a detailed write-up and comparison with Ys VIII.
Aug 17, 2021 8:09:12 GMT -5
Spud: I try to keep up with here, but the proboard RSS feed suuuucks. And Thunderbird is barely passable as a feed aggregator. I feel like the internet was just better in 2007.
Sept 3, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I may have a little time to catch my breath...
Sept 6, 2021 19:09:08 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Game progress update: Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX — defeated Falgior, so it's about 1/3 done (about 1/4 if I count post-game item grinding); WarioWare: Get It Together! — played up to the staff credits (about 5%, I guess).
Sept 15, 2021 12:30:19 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: This pic is how I'd rate my games on Nintendo Switch so far (subject to change). Numbers are meant to show relative positions; like temperatures in °C and °F, absolute values don't mean much.
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