DiU, I am with you there. I was actually waiting for Capcom to do this. I just knew that sooner or later, Capcom would re-release the game. This isn't even the first time they did that. I will never forget the many editions of Street Fighter II before we finally got Street Fighter III. Seriously, have you seen how many editions of Street Fighter II are available on Wii's Virtual Console? Anyway, I think I will be a bit more cautious by waiting to see whether Capcom makes a third edition of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 in the next two years before I settle on Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
See, I find this logic hilarious. If we all thought this way there wouldn't be an Ulitmate Marvel VS. Capcom 3. There wouldn't even be a regular Marvel VS. Capcom 2. Nobody would buy the first version, because they'd all be waiting for the second version... and then, because nobody bought the first version, the second version wouldn't get made.
Sure, they said Nemesis, Ghost Rider, and Strider couldn't fit into the game for whatever reasons but why get mad at them for changing their minds and add those characters? Would we prefer that Capcom not add them in the game?
Actually, I'm mad at them for being blatant hypocrites.
Strider isn't Capcom's fault. The owner of the character said no, but apparently changed his/their mind. Note that Strider's copyright is listed seperately on the other MvC games- he's not owned solely by Capcom.
I am not defending Capcom. I guess I am not too upset about most stuff that Capcom did and did not do. The only thing I disagreed was the undeletable save data in that Resident Evil 3DS game because I like to start over from the beginning sometimes. If they want to fight piracy, how about stopping game emulators instead of stopping second-hand game markets? At least I paid for my used games instead of getting them for free via emulators.
As for no Mega Man in MvC3 games, yes, I think that kinda sucks but I am not too upset about that because at least I could play as Mega Man in MvC1 and MvC2. Maybe he will be in MvC4... or Super Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Turbo 2nd Impact 3rd Strike: Arcade Champion Edition for those who don't want to wait for MvC4.
Though, I do think that it is a bit too soon to annnounce Ultimate after what? Five months after the original game? I am not upset over the existence of Ultimate but I do think that they should have at least waited one year after the original's release. That would soften the blow to those who already got the game... and of course, offer the option for Ultimate DLC in the original MvC3 for those who already have the game. I think Mortal Kombat is doing a decent job with the DLC that I think Capcom should follow suit.
If they want to fight piracy, how about stopping game emulators instead of stopping second-hand game markets? At least I paid for my used games instead of getting them for free via emulators.
When you buy a game second-hand 100% of the money goes to the store and the developer doesn't see a penny of it. So really, you may as well just download it. You're screwing the developer over either way, so why spend money?
So, what do developers/manufacturers want us to do with our purchases? Keep them forever even if they are worn out (and collecting dust) and cluttering in our homes to the point we need to get on the Clean House TV show? Ridiculous. Next thing you know, they are against us lending our stuff to our friends when they want to borrow them because our friends should be giving them money like we did. I guess all the clothing companies are against Goodwill, too, because people are buying brand name clothes for less than $10 when they should have spent over $100 on the same clothes at the mall. Well, the way I see it... compared to illegally stealing games for free via emulators, legitimately buying used games for less than $20 is the lesser of two evils and not everyone can afford brand new stuff for the full retail price, especially in this economic climate. I personally think the Virtual Console is good because the games are available at an affordable price and they aren't cluttering our homes (and the NES games not blinking nor showing scrambled graphics is a big plus ) even though it isn't going to completely eradicate piracy.
Well, the way I see it... compared to illegally stealing games for free via emulators, legitimately buying used games for less than $20 is the lesser of two evils and not everyone can afford brand new stuff for the full retail price, especially in this economic climate.
Yes, it may be the lesser of two evils to you. But to the developer it's the exact same of two evils. People getting their games without giving them a cent for their hard work.
It's not the same as a goodwill store because what are the chances of you finding a specific thing you're looking for in a goodwill store? You can't look through a clothes catalogue, find exactly what you want, and then go and pick up exactly that. But you can get any new game you want second-hand in any major game retailer. Essentially for every one copy they sell, ten people can own the game. The actual equivalent isn't a goodwill store, it's somebody buying a ticket to a movie, recording the movie on their phone, then selling copies to other people.
Also, the money goodwill places get is for a good cause, the money you shovel into GameStop's hands just goes to line their pockets. Think about it - you buy a game new, play it for a few months, take it back, they give you about 40-50% of what you paid for it (provided the game is still new/popular), and then sell it again for $10 less than the price of a new copy... you could save yourself a lot of time and just flush half your money down the toilet. You'll have just as much to show for it. Trading in your games to buy new ones is just an insanely expensive way of renting games.
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So, what do developers/manufacturers want us to do with our purchases? Keep them forever even if they are worn out (and collecting dust) and cluttering in our homes to the point we need to get on the Clean House TV show?
...I've never sold a game in my life. Not to say my dad stupidly gave up my Genesis and games, as well as a few PS One games that I had to buy back years later.
I still keep all my games, organized. I dunno why people are so compulsed to sell them after it's beat.
Think about it - you buy a game new, play it for a few months, take it back, they give you about 40-50% of what you paid for it (provided the game is still new/popular), and then sell it again for $10 less than the price of a new copy.
Actually, over here they sell it for close to $3 off >_>
You guys still have your games in their original cartridges/CD's, too? Glad to know I am not the only one who does that. The only Virtual Console games I have are the games I missed out during the NES/SNES/N64 years (Breath of Fire 2, Kirby Super Star, Kirby's Dream Land 3, Final Fight 1-2) or the games that I lost/rented years ago (Super Mario 64, Paper Mario) or the games that are broken and not working on my consoles (my entire NES library, especially Castlevania 1-3, Kirby's Adventure) I wish they would put Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle on the Virtual Console! Same with Disney's Magical Quest 1-3 even though I still have the first game. God, the Disney games were actually good in the NES/SNES years.
Okay, I think we have gotten off topic here. Well, for me, I think Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is a good thing for people who haven't gotten the original Marvel vs. Capcom 3 like me. I am sorry for those who did get the original edition, though. I understand why they are upset over the lack of DLC support for the original edition. I think Capcom should have sold Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 AND offer the same stuff found in that updated edition as DLC for the original edition. That way, anyone who got the first game can happily add the extras if they wished to and those who didn't get the first game can get the second game with all the extras included.
So, what do developers/manufacturers want us to do with our purchases? Keep them forever even if they are worn out (and collecting dust) and cluttering in our homes to the point we need to get on the Clean House TV show? Ridiculous.
Oh, just to clear things up, the used games I buy from GameStop are the PS2 and a few Wii and Gamecube games. I got rid of my old NES games since they don't work on my NES anymore and it cleared up some clutter from my closet. I gave up trying to fix the blinking screen and the scrambled graphics. Even my Zapper wasn't working so I could not play Duck Hunt and Hogan's Alley. So for me, I keep the games I buy, new or used, as long as they are working or if I actually liked them enough to replay them over and over again.
Fair enough. Until the whole Virtual Console thing contains every game ever made, second-hand sales are great for really old games. But as far as new games go, second-hand sales are actually hurting the industry far more than piracy ever did. Most major publishers now are doing things to discourage people from buying their games used. Personally, it's one of the few things Capcom are doing right now that I can't fault them on.
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Nester the Lark: ^ At the time, I think I picked romantic. Not sure what I'd pick today. I feel like I'm somewhere in between.
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