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Post by kirbychu on Sept 19, 2011 4:36:49 GMT -5
Sorry. I should make it clear that I'm not angry at you, I'm angry at the game and at Sonic Team. I was very excited about it, and then spent a long time trying to find a part of it that justified me spending my money, only to find that that part didn't really exist. So sorry for being such a dick about it. I think most of the long-time members are used to me being a grumpy bastard.
The trouble with discussing the game is that it makes me remember everything I hated about it, and probably come away disliking it twice as much as I did before discussing it. So I will try to remember something I liked about it!
Uuhhhhhh... I liked the tune in Splash Hill Zone. Although I hated the instruments it was played on. And I liked the game more than Sonic Chronicles, which I still maintain is the worst Sonic game out there.
...I guess that's all I got.
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Post by The Qu on Sept 19, 2011 11:31:07 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but you think Sonic Chronicles is worse than Sonic 06? Would you please explain that, bro?
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Post by kirbychu on Sept 19, 2011 11:47:47 GMT -5
Once you've beaten Green Hill, you've seen everything Chronicles has to offer. From then on, the game is just mind-numbing repetition peppered with Bioware ads and music that sounds like fan-made midis made on 20-year-old PC sound cards. The game was also horribly unbalanced. Just get Cream and equip her with a certain Chao... you're now invincible. The story was nice (ignoring the ending), but everything else felt like it'd be more at home as a browser-based Flash minigame to promote an actual game.
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Post by The Qu on Sept 19, 2011 16:17:09 GMT -5
All right, I'll give you those points. However, at least Chronicles was playable. =P
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Post by kirbychu on Sept 19, 2011 16:32:24 GMT -5
Touché.
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Post by Manspeed on Sept 20, 2011 16:15:57 GMT -5
I've heard that the music tracks actually WERE old MIDIs that the development team found in the bowels of the Internet and altered.
Some of the codex entries were supposedly copied off Wikipedia and other Sonic fan wikis as well. Shows how much effort they really put in.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Sept 20, 2011 16:25:51 GMT -5
I've heard that the music tracks actually WERE old MIDIs that the development team found in the bowels of the Internet and altered. Some of the codex entries were supposedly copied off Wikipedia and other Sonic fan wikis as well. Shows how much effort they really put in. Well, that's...cheap as hell.
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Post by kirbychu on Sept 21, 2011 4:25:54 GMT -5
Sadly, I am not the least bit surprised. It became clear to me that they weren't putting in as much effort as they said they were when they got the Chaos Emerald colours wrong. They had obviously just Google Image-searched them and used the first picture they found as reference, since at the time the first picture that came up in Google Images at the time (and still) was a picture of the wrong-colour emeralds from Sonic R... which are the colours Bioware used. If they had done their research or asked Sonic Team they would've easy found out that the seven emerald colours in every major game in the series have always been the major colours of RGB. Not a big deal, perhaps, but it's a stupid mistake that shouldn't be made by anyone who was trying to be as faithful to the series as they claimed. It's stuff like that that made it feel to me like the entire game was just a cheap way of trying to get Sonic fans to buy Mass Effect. And I already had Mass Effect!
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Post by Da Robot on Sept 21, 2011 6:00:59 GMT -5
Read this on TV Tropes about SC.
"What Could Have Been: This game is almost an Unfinished Beta - the one we have now is a very stripped down version of what was originally planned. Hackers have discovered that the opening cutscene was to be A LOT longer and have an actual battle. The music would probably be actually good instead of strangely retro soundly. But no! All of this is likely the result of Bioware being bought by Electronic Arts roughly a year before the game released, and Bioware completed enough of the game to fulfill their contract to Sega so that they could concentrate on Dragon Age: Origins."
I was actually interested in this game when it was first announced, and was promptly lost when I started seeing the average review scores from it.
Also any footage of the "Bioware ads?"
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Post by kirbychu on Sept 21, 2011 6:10:29 GMT -5
Also any footage of the "Bioware ads?" The game's ending cutscene was essentially a very cheesy ad for Bioware. The person playing skips most of it, but it goes on for a long time, with Sonic and Tails talking about how amazing Bioware is all the way along, and then telling players to buy more Bioware games. Quite often after battles (and once during a cutscene) you get a message telling you to visit Bioware.com.
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Post by Da Robot on Sept 21, 2011 6:23:15 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting credits, surprised they had a skip option.
Also is this the example of a Bioware ad you were talking about? (at 5:59)
Is it me, or the battle sound effects . . . sound really generic?
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Post by kirbychu on Sept 21, 2011 6:28:47 GMT -5
I forgot about that one! There was another one somewhere, I think right before you leave the Sonic world and head into the Bioware-created worlds.
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Post by Da Robot on Sept 21, 2011 6:40:37 GMT -5
EDIT: Found a short one played after a battle at 4:03 Which sounds like the ones your talking about. (Visit our community website at sonic.bioware.com!)
After seeing how those after battle messages are random, and how those website plugs can pop up, that would get annoying fast.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Sept 21, 2011 10:00:03 GMT -5
Hahaha, oh wow I didn't know it was that bad, to the point I almost want to get myself a copy to experience it for myself
Almost
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Post by The Qu on Sept 21, 2011 13:32:56 GMT -5
It's really not a bad game per se, just one that is very, very dissapointing, given what could have been. I enjoyed it when I played it. Warning though- the battles are very eeehhh and easy to break.
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