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Post by Manspeed on Jun 17, 2014 19:46:57 GMT -5
I already have a translated list of all the names. It's the information listed in each character's bio I really want. Some of the enemies seem to have pretty interesting stuff from what little I've gleaned already.
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Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 17, 2014 20:12:50 GMT -5
It's a small book, but there are like 200 of enemy bios. Are there any ones in particular that you want to see translated? (Don't rely on them too much, by the way; I never formally learned the language. Here's a sampler.) |
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 17, 2014 20:15:03 GMT -5
I guess I'll have to compile a list, then.
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Post by Kriven on Jun 17, 2014 20:44:42 GMT -5
No they didn't. All Yoshi's Island did was add a beginning that we did not originally know about. There are twenty-eight years of Mario's history for him to be in Brooklyn.
The origin never went anywhere.
I don't have a "why". It didn't go anywhere. Asserting that it did is wrong.
That's all.
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 17, 2014 20:49:10 GMT -5
Okay, between that and your last post I have no idea what your counterpoint is supposed to be. All I know is that yes, they did drop it and I've repeatedly given evidence as such. You didn't answer any of my questions, either.
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Post by kirbychu on Jun 17, 2014 21:03:07 GMT -5
Don't know if this has been mentioned already, but has anybody else noticed that they seem to have phased out the name Magikoopa in favour of Kamek? I was playing Mario 3D World earlier and noticed the battle stage against three of them uses Kamek's name in the title rather than Magikoopa.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Jun 17, 2014 21:10:24 GMT -5
"Magikoopa" and "Kamek" are practically the same now. The localizers just go with whichever name they want.
The NA release of 3D World calls them Magikoopas, but EU calls them Kamek.
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 17, 2014 21:11:12 GMT -5
Probably because Magikoopa's name in Japan is 'Kamek' (カメック). They seem to be pushing towards localization consistency more and more these days.
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Post by kirbychu on Jun 17, 2014 21:19:18 GMT -5
The NA release of 3D World calls them Magikoopas, but EU calls them Kamek. Oh, is it just an EU thing? Does that go for the other recent games too? I honestly can't remember the last time I saw one referred to as anything other than Kamek, but most of the games recently just had one of them so I figured the translators were just pushing for it being "the" Kamek. |
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Jun 17, 2014 21:20:20 GMT -5
I recall Mario Party 9 did that too.
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Post by Kriven on Jun 17, 2014 21:56:38 GMT -5
Okay, between that and your last post I have no idea what your counterpoint is supposed to be. All I know is that yes, they did drop it and I've repeatedly given evidence as such. You didn't answer any of my questions, either. I didn't answer them because they do not matter. Whether Mario is from Brooklyn benefits the narrative structure or the development character, or whether it doesn't, that doesn't matter. That's like asking if Harry Potter being named Harry actually benefits the narrative structure of those books. It simply doesn't matter, all that matters is that he is. And, erm, you haven't provided any evidence that they've dropped the Brooklyn heritage at all. You've mentioned that they haven't talked about it in twenty or so years, whoop-dee-doo. That's not how story works. They haven't mentioned it because there hasn't been a need to mention it. Brooklyn is in the past, the Mushroom Kingdom is in the now. The series evolved, but that doesn't mean its roots never happened. That's like saying "Foreman Spike hasn't been seen in a while, I guess he doesn't exist anymore!" |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 18, 2014 0:12:29 GMT -5
SimCity SNES, Mario's Time Machine, and Mario is Missing! all make mention of the Mario Bros. having once lived in Brooklyn. While MTM and MIM are both licensed games with questionable continuity, SimCity SNES was developed by Nintendo. and Mario is Missing! were licensed games and can thus be considered about as canon as Hotel Mario. As for SimCity, that one...I can give it to you, I guess, but remember that it's not a Mario game, and that it was mentioned in the manual only, meaning that it may not have been Nintendo who was responsible for saying it there. So... Okay, between that and your last post I have no idea what your counterpoint is supposed to be. All I know is that yes, they did drop it and I've repeatedly given evidence as such. You didn't answer any of my questions, either. I didn't answer them because they do not matter. Whether Mario is from Brooklyn benefits the narrative structure or the development character, or whether it doesn't, that doesn't matter. That's like asking if Harry Potter being named Harry actually benefits the narrative structure of those books. It simply doesn't matter, all that matters is that he is. That's the point. It doesn't matter where Mario was born or raised or whatever from a narrative standpoint. There's no in-game evidence (outside of a number of games of questionable-at-best adherence to continuity) supporting a Brooklynite upbringing, and little in-game evidence supporting him being from anywhere but the Mushroom Kingdom. There's no need to complicate his backstory here. Occam's Razor, man. Unless we actually see a game where he comes from a place which is unambiguously Brooklyn to the Mushroom Kingdom, or contrarily where a younger Mario goes from the Mushroom Kingdom to Brooklyn, there's just no reason to back this. |
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Post by The Qu on Jun 18, 2014 1:44:38 GMT -5
Well, there is the weird ending to Donkey Kong '94.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 18, 2014 2:05:12 GMT -5
Well, there is the weird ending to Donkey Kong '94. True, but DK94 never explicitly mentions it starts in Brooklyn. And you can't say character limit, either, since Big-City is the same number of letters as Brooklyn. It may have been intended to be NYC at the time, or it may not have, but it was definitely ambiguous enough to where it just as well could have been Diamond City or Toad Town or any other city in the Mushroom Kingdom. |
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Post by Koopaul on Jun 18, 2014 2:42:35 GMT -5
With Mario series you must apply the Occam's Razor. The most simple and obvious origin must be true.
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