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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 21, 2014 16:15:39 GMT -5
The only real discrepancy is how much smaller he is in DK for GB compared to the original arcade version. I say it's mushroom poisoning. Honestly, I'm not too keen on the idea of going with Rare's original intention with Cranky Kong being DK's father. It definitely simplifies matters, but it's not what's actually stated in-game. We know, from in-game sources, that Cranky is DK's grandfather. So, tough pill to swallow for me, but I'm willing to accept that Cranky Kong was in his mid-50's (and that Kongs age like humans, I guess) for the arcade games. I mean, he seems to be in decent shape in spite of his sedentary lifestyle and apparent age, and if he's only got even 8 years behind him now, it'd explain why the hell a guy in his mid-60's can get involved in island reclamation. |
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 21, 2014 20:47:45 GMT -5
It is stated in-game in Donkey Kong 64, though. I know that's only 1 out of like 10 games, but it is definitely an example of Rare demonstrating their intentions. Food for thought: Maybe Kongs in general have incomprehensible aging patterns. Remember what happened to Tiny Kong?  |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 22, 2014 1:09:58 GMT -5
It is stated in-game in Donkey Kong 64, though. I know that's only 1 out of like 10 games, but it is definitely an example of Rare demonstrating their intentions. Food for thought: Maybe Kongs in general have incomprehensible aging patterns. Remember what happened to Tiny Kong? DK64 vs. what, everything else? Sorry, but I'm gonna give it majority rule here. By the way, good call mentioning Tiny, but she's probably not a good comparison, as she does not appear to be a gorilla, so whatever aging processes were responsible for her growth spurt were probably not responsible for Cranky's rapid aging. From a Watsonian perspective, I'd imagine puberty hit her like a ton of bricks, while for Dixie, it just kinda...didn't. |
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Post by Kriven on Jun 22, 2014 1:42:33 GMT -5
Tiny and Dixie are Chimpanzees. Tiny's leap in aging is probably best explained by the fact that her abilities already dealt with changing form, specifically size, anyhow.
Edit: Has anybody managed to figure out what species all of the Kongs are?
Donkey Kong and Cranky Kong are known to be Gorillas. Funky is probably also a Gorilla, as is Wrinkly (and probably Swanky?)
Diddy claims to be a Chimp, Tiny and Dixie are Chimps
Lanky Kong is an Orangutang
I don't know what Candy is supposed to be. She's far too slender to be considered a Gorilla, isn't she?
Considering Chunky's posture and both he and Kiddy's size relative to the other Kongs, I believe them to be Gigantopithecus or a similar species.
On the topic of posture: why is Donkey usually hunched while Funky is erect?
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 22, 2014 9:23:07 GMT -5
Where has it ever been confirmed that Dixie and Tiny are chimps? And when has Diddy ever claimed to be a chimp? He's clearly a monkey. @ Shrikeswind: How much power does majority rule have over author's original intent? We're caught between a rock and a hard place on this one little factor. |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 22, 2014 13:24:04 GMT -5
Where has it ever been confirmed that Dixie and Tiny are chimps? And when has Diddy ever claimed to be a chimp? He's clearly a monkey. With Tiny and Dixie it seems fairly clear by the fact that they are small and tailless, but for what that's really worth, I dunno. Diddy is often called a chimp, but there's a lot of reason to distrust it: He has a tail. Given that majority rule here is so vast a difference and that a) even original author only had one game late in their run on the series which stated that and b) that author is no longer working on said series, I'd say majority rule's pushing a few thousand PSI over original intent here. |
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Post by Manspeed on Jun 22, 2014 20:55:56 GMT -5
Dixie and Tiny could be macaques rather than apes. Macaques are monkeys with very small tails, often so small they're barely visible.
I'm really torn on the thing with DK's age. If we go with majority rule, we have a nigh-impossible aging process to figure out, while if we want an easier one we have to fudge it and go with the unused author's intent. I dunno what to do. @.@
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Post by kirbychu on Jun 22, 2014 21:17:50 GMT -5
In a series where characters routinely exist in the same space as themselves as babies, I don't think aging processes really mean that much. Time travel is apparently something characters can do freely whenever they feel like playing golf.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 22, 2014 22:45:41 GMT -5
I'm really torn on the thing with DK's age. If we go with majority rule, we have a nigh-impossible aging process to figure out, while if we want an easier one we have to fudge it and go with the unused author's intent. I dunno what to do. @.@ I've got two options. 1) The arcade games actually did take place when Cranky was in his 50's, Kongs age like humans, and Cranky is now in his 60's. 2) The Yoshi series actually takes place in the future and the babies do a time-travel baby-warp to the appropriate time period of their origin. [ I haven't been reading Homestuck, why do you ask?] |
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Post by Manspeed on Jul 1, 2014 18:03:01 GMT -5
You reminded me of an old theory I used to have that I eventually scrapped: I once proposed that perhaps DK in Mario Kart, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis and Mario Party was actually DKI/Cranky, just given a Rare-style redesign. This would explain why DK Jr. appears alongside him in Mario Tennis, and also why we see classic-style DKI and DK Jr. in the Game & Watch Gallery games. Naturally I had to scrap this idea after Camelot and Namco and eventually EAD began using Diddy and other Rare-created Kongs in future Mario Karts, Mario Golfs and Mario Tennises. It was pretty convoluted in retrospect. I doubt EAD, Hudson and Camelot intended that to be anything but Rare's DK during the N64 years. |
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