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Post by Old Man Rupee on May 13, 2006 7:47:49 GMT -5
OK, here's the "base of operations" for helping out with Fry's Pre-release feature. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to go through the video (and all sceenshots) of the new Smash Bros game, and report back here with any good stuff for Fry.
My contribution: after reviewing the video several hundred times, I've started to try and spot any actual fighting moves used. For example, you can tell that Pikachu's moveset has hardly been changed at all from SSBM.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 13, 2006 8:29:21 GMT -5
You can actually tell that none of the four original character's movesets have been changed (aside from the Super attacks), or at least not significantly - just watch them fight at that start, and especially when Snake is in his box. The sound effects apear to be the same, too - notice Kirby's "oooshi" groan when he transforms back from his stone form.
Also, another observation - Samus is hot. Which we already knew, but now we can see more clearly. I think there will be a new substitute for looking up Peach's dress (which, lets face it, everyone has done). Wait, where was I? Oh, I forget.
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Post by Old Man Rupee on May 13, 2006 9:00:51 GMT -5
Ah, yes, you're right of course (umm...about the movesets) I'd better focus my attentions on the newbie movesets; for example this screenshot shows a Metaknight move:  It looks similar to Link's spin attack move. (Poor Mario's getting a beating! Fight back!) |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 13, 2006 11:05:21 GMT -5
What I really need is someone to positively identify the castle - whether it's from a Fire Emblem game, and if so, which one?
We now know that Samus and Zero Suit Samus will be separate characters (thanks to official artwork showing both).
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Post by Smashchu on May 13, 2006 20:03:43 GMT -5
Well it seems that Metanight will focus on multi hit attacks. His standard can hit about 3-4 times and his >A in the Airs is 3 times. His down attack only hits once.
Pits blades in the air seems to produce quick short strikes. His standard attack seems to hit twice at the lease.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 14, 2006 7:11:35 GMT -5
And I was just having a look at... ugh.... Gamefaqs, and it would seem ZS Samus has an energy whip rather than just an energy sword  so it looks like she could be Ivy (from Soul Calibur) style, but with a gun as well! 3 weapons = awesome. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 14, 2006 7:38:49 GMT -5
Nice spot ;D
I expect with blaster, whip and beam swords, she's probably replacing Shiek's multi-weapon capabilities. Doesn't mean Zelda won't be in it, but she probably won't turn all ninja on us again.
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Post by wanderingshadow on May 14, 2006 11:06:40 GMT -5
Maybe she'll turn into Tetra. Everyone knows that people like pirates better than ninjas. For further details, visit axapirate.com. |
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Post by Flip on May 14, 2006 15:38:23 GMT -5
Sheik could still appear in TP, though. BUT, if anyone gets axed, they're the most likely, in my book, if Link went all futuristic Twilighty on us and Sheik is absent from that game  Meta Knight's Down B Cloak thing (I'm assuming it's his Down B; moves like that usually go to that assignment) deflects attacks. It bounced Pit's Light Arrow off to the side, which is pretty cool. Don't know if it works like Fox's Reflector or Mewtwo's Confusion, though (OR Marth's Counter, where it only works for that one split second, and sends it off in crazy directions...). Pit looks like he'll fight similar to Young Link. He's actually kinda speedy, which is cool. Looks like a blend between Young Link, Marth, and Kirby. Which, of course, means all those Gamefaqs goons are crying "BROKEN" or "MY FIRST AND BEST PLAYA." Heh. And if you noticed, none of the 4 oldies we saw fighting used their normal B specials. Wonder if they weren't programmed yet? EDIT: I take that back. Pika uses Quick Attack once or twice. Hm. Also, does Wario look smaller than usual to anyone else? He's not as... pudgy. EDIT 2: Ack. Kirby uses his Up B as well. Okay, forget that altogether and entirely >.> EDIT 3: Woah. I watched the video around Meta Knight's Cloak attack again in Slow-Mo, and it negated Pit's Arrow entirely. It must be a limited ability then (like he can't move, it only lasts so long), because it just removed the effects entirely EDIT 4: Man, I can't stop XD I just noticed in the last screen on your Pre-Release page, Fry, that Meta Knight has grabbed Mario. If you watch closely, he does a running grab (so those return ), slashes Mario good (so is that his Z/A Grab?), and tosses him backwards. Coolies! |
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 15, 2006 3:48:18 GMT -5
EDIT 4: Man, I can't stop XD I just noticed in the last screen on your Pre-Release page, Fry, that Meta Knight has grabbed Mario. If you watch closely, he does a running grab (so those return ), slashes Mario good (so is that his Z/A Grab?), and tosses him backwards. Coolies! What about the possibility of a B Throw/Attack? I know there is no evidence whatsoever to say that Metakinght isn't using a normal throw, but I really wouldn't be surprised if there was a special B throw for each character (as that, along with the Super Smashes, would at least make the old characters seem different enough even if they have basically the same moveset). And regarding Zelda/Shiek, its also worth noting that Zelda has a sword in the twilight Princess artowrk, and so, if she uses it in Twilight Princess, then I'd say theres a good chance she will become the Twilight Princess version of herself (which means, more than likely, that she would be the Twilight Princess) Can't see them ditching Shiek, though, either - so maybe she'll be on her own? Who really knows? |
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Post by Sqrt2 on May 15, 2006 6:43:09 GMT -5
Well it seems that Metanight will focus on multi hit attacks. His standard can hit about 3-4 times and his >A in the Airs is 3 times. His down attack only hits once. Pits blades in the air seems to produce quick short strikes. His standard attack seems to hit twice at the lease. Ahhhh.. so he's one of those 'cheap' characters them like SC2's Raphael. |
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Post by Dry Mario on May 15, 2006 18:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by Smashchu on May 16, 2006 20:01:08 GMT -5
Also In the video when Link does his DownA in Air he goes through the enemy insted of bouncing.
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Post by Flip on May 16, 2006 21:14:32 GMT -5
Probably programming. Why wouldn't he bounce? He always does in Zelda II |
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Post by TrustTheFungus on May 17, 2006 16:55:44 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone has seen this: www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no1_1.htmlHere's a list of characters mentioned: "Megaman
Claus (MOTHER 3)
Lucas (MOTHER 3)
King K. Rool (DK Country)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Geno (SMB RPG)
Professor Kawasima (Prof. Kawashima's Brain Training: How old is your Brain?)
Kalas (Batten Kaitos)
Cheer Group (? Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! ?)
Doctor Pepper (? General Pepper from Star Fox?)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem)
Black Shadow (F-Zero)
Takao (female character, 8 years old?)
Dragon Chan (Super Punch-Out!!!)
G-Red (Gotchaforce)
Hammer Bros.
Ogma (Fire Emblem)
the cute technician Sawayama (?) (this is entry #54)
entry #56 is incomprehensible to me, but it's supposedly about characters
entry #59 seems to mention something "sonic," but i can't tell if it's actually a reference to the character and the joke of him being in Melee."smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71872&page=1&pp=15There's some pretty good choices there. Professor Kawasima would be awesome. |
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