Flip's Game Ideas

[Flip]

Hey folks, this here is a thread about my game ideas. I'm planning on drumming up some sketches here and there to scan over this long winter break, so you can all see what goes in my noggin, but for now just read on to see what ya think

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Super Mario Bros. Generations

The coup d'grace, a Mario game to end all Mario games. During a peaceful picnic, the Mario Bros. and Peach are disturbed by a crash overhead. It's the doomship armada! Bowser, Jr., Kamek, Kammy, and the forgotten Koopalings are leading an onslaught on the Mushroom Kingdom. Mario and Luigi leap into action but Peach is still kidnapped in the scuffle. In the bushes, Wario and Waluigi watch humorously as they plot their one and only chance to outdo the Mario Bros. And as Mario and Luigi dash off to catch the doomship with Peach aboard, the wicked Wario and Waluigi follow soon after.
The game plays like Mario 3 meets New Super Mario Bros. The map screen is very reminiscent of Mario 3 as is the gameplay, but the graphics and presentation are very NSMB-esque. There are Mushroom Houses (Red - Toad, item shop; Green - Toadette, 1-ups; Brown - Toadsworth, one free item; Blue - replaces any other after certain requirements, gives specialty suit), Tumble Houses (minigames), Ghost Houses, Fortresses, Castles, Coin Ships, etc. etc. And if you go back to the Mushroom Kingdom to relax, there's E. Gadd's Garage for in-game options.

You can play as any of the four characters. Mario is average and retains his normal abilities plus a Spin Jump; Luigi is a tad faster and jumps a bit higher; Waluigi is similar to Luigi with less traction and no Spin Jump in exchange for a Drill Stomp that defeats spiked enemies; and Wario is slower, heavier, and stronger with no Spin Jump but instead the Body Slam attack.

Powerups are very Mario 3, with the Fire Flower, Hammer Suit, and all the rest returning. Newer powerups appear, such as the Ice Flower, Bee Suit, and Mega Mushroom. And then brand-spanking-new powerups are here as well! The Mouser and Panda Suits (Mario Adventure hack) let you toss bombs or run up walls respectively; both have a fancier version of the normal Spin Jump. The Fox and Ram suits (me) increase your speed while letting your toss your coins or allow you to run straight through enemies and headbutt blocks. Each character gets a unique suit as well. Mario's Star Suit is invincible at full speed and smashes all in its path; Luigi's Nimbus Suit can fly indefinitely and pass by enemies easily; Wario's Bull Hat lets him smash any and everything; and Waluigi's Dark Suit lets him double jump, walk through some walls, and throw thorns at enemies.

Yoshi is back, and this time he comes in 7 colors. Black, White, and Brown make their debut with their own abilities. Black Yoshi can run faster and spit firecracker like fireballs; White Yoshi can hide in the background and gets a better flutter kick; and Brown Yoshi does an enemy and block pounding drill when he butt stomps. Other rides include Birdo in 3 flavors (Pink, Purple with Charge Eggs, and Orange with Rapid Fire Eggs) and Rex, who comes in two (Blue and Black with Bull Charge).

The game plays out across 9 worlds. As the story goes, Bowser is off to kidnap 8 maidens who house the Elements that will open his way to greater power. Peach is just one of them. The other 7 lie in other Kingdoms across the globe, and Mario and Co. must save them from the vile Koopalings before the Elements are lost to Koopa. By beating each Koopaling, World Boss, and collecting as many Power Stars as they can, the brothers may just have a chance! On your travels, you are helped by an airship crew led by a Toad named Gunner, the lovable star-folk Geno (who lends you tips on finding Power Stars), and the mysterious figure Ginger, a gray-haired woman who wants nothing but to help you. The worlds, with corresponding maiden, element, and Koopaling are as follows:

• Mushroom Kingdom -- grassy fields, some sewer and mushroom levels -- Princess Peach, Light -- Larry Koopa
  
• Dry Dry Desert -- desert levels, some ghost stuff -- Empress Ibis (half-cat mummy queen), Wind -- Morton Koopa
  
• The Great Sea -- water levels -- Captain Syrup, Water -- Wendy O. Koopa
  
• Digdogger Mines -- mountain and cave levels -- Lady Paprika (a Victorian-style puppet), Metal -- Iggy Koopa
  
• Snowflake Hills -- ice and snow levels -- Princess Clover (a blue-skinned Russian girl), Ice -- Roy Koopa
  
• Hei-Ho Jungle -- jungle levels, lotsa Shy Guys -- Princess Shokora (from Wario Land 4. remember?), Earth -- Lemmy Koopa
  
• Lava Domain -- fire and mountain levels -- Queen Cinnamon (a fiery, young queen), Fire -- Ludwing Von Koopa
  
• Sarasaland -- Eastern-style sky world, clockwork levels -- Princess Daisy, Nature -- Bowser Jr.
  
• Dark World -- ...dark world? duh? -- Princess Peach, 2nd time -- Kamek and Kammy
  
• Valley of Koopa -- JUST ONE, Bowser's Castle -- None -- Bowser
  

There are also many, many secret worlds. Tumble's Casino and Yoshi's Island are loaded with minigames, while Rainbow Road and Star Road challenge you with perplexing and difficult levels. There's also Gateway Galaxy, Warp Zone, Diamond City, and a few others to discover--so go at it!

Not to spoil the plot too much, but the gist of it goes that you ain't done till all the stars are collected. THEN you get to see what really happens. PM me for details, or just if enough of you request I'll post.

Also, secret characters? Peach, Toad, Geno, and Syrup. Peach is a weaker version of the brothers and can hover and guard herself with her parasol. Her special suit is the Monarch, where she wears armor and fights with a sword. Toad plays just like Mario 2, but can also collect the Golden Shroom to run up walls and be invincible. Geno plays sorta like Mega Man and Syrup sort of like Lady Sia or another game like that. Sparkster, maybe?

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Super Mario Tactics

A strange force has appeared on the horizon, and it appears that it summons everyone to battle. As these new crystals appear all over the Mushroom Kingdom, everyone wonders what they could be for. And that's where you come in. A young and greenhorn human, you join the MK military looking for adventure. The Mario Bros. have disappeared, and with all these crystals cropping up the Princess wants you to help lead a faction of soldiers across the Mushroom World to search for the source of these strange objects. Entrusting your care to her retainer, Toad, the two of you traverse the lands amassing quite the army. Can your tactics come out victorious, and solve the mystery of the crystals?

This game works a like FFTactics Advance. Actually, a lot like it. There are multiple races, job classes, attacks, etc. and the system is arranged just like a FF Tactics game. Each unit has a race and job class, and by winning battles they gain EXP (to level up) and AP, which goes towards the equipment they are wearing. Most equipment will teach specific job classes unique skills and abilities, and AP is the way to learn them. Once you max AP in a skill (which you can use while the armor is equipped), you learn it permanently and make unequip it. And as you progress through classes, you unlock new ones and can share abilities. The possibilities thus become endless. A Knight who uses White Mage, or a Summoning Monk, or a Samurai who can use Dual Swords and X-Strike. Units are also unique in that they have their own names, genders, base stats, birthdays, and tastes. This gives them complete originality from others on the team.
The races are as follows:

• Toad -- basic mushroom-headed race. these are well-rounded units, capable of learning both Physical and Magic classes. their specialties include the Item Specialist and Paladin, but also the bare essentials like White Mage, Fighter, and Monk. the main character shares the same pool of abilities as a Toad, despite being Human
  
• Koopa -- a more magically-inclined race, these are available after the first battle or so to recruit. they specialize in classes such as the Oracle, Time Mage, and Magikoopa, but they also use some Physical classes like the Koopatrol and Dark Knight. well-balanced in some regards, but still more magical in the end.
  
• Squeek -- the speediest of races, also known as "Lil' Mousers." these guys specialize in cunning and cutthroat classes such as the Thief, Hunter, and Fencer classes. but they also utilize more unique and mixed classes like the Bard, Red Mage, and Green Mage. a nice race to have.
  
• Beanish -- these big guys join 1/4 through the game, specializing almost entirely in Physical. Fighter, Dragoon, Karateka, Gladiator... you name it. instead of magic, they use science to their advantage: Beanish can also become the Mad Chemist or Engineer classes.
  
• Shy Guy -- gotten when you enter Sub Con for the first time, right after you get Beanish. this race is strange in that it is genderless and their classes and abilities are random and quirky. very quirky. Dancer, Witch Doctor, Juggler, and Buccaneer are a few of the classes you get out of these guys.
  
• Bumpty -- the final race, small penguins who are not very intimidating but do pack a punch. another mixed race, they can become Gunners, Penguin Knights, Monks, Summoners, and even the almighty Herald (a class that can march other units outside of turn). all in all a very useful race, albeit unassuming.
  

There are also Yoshi mounts that increase movement and recruitable Subcons that will aid you in battle. Unlockable characters include Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser himself. Wait... what? Who's the villain then... *points to Sub Con ;p*

*Note: Going to add this stuff to DA soon, since I love drawing these races and job classes. It's so much fun!

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Pokemon Gamma

Zeta Force has kidnapped the Prime Minister's daughter, and only you, Ace, can stop them. With the help of your trusted Pokemon, can you stop Zeta Force in time to save the Prime Minister's daughter? Can you prevent the awakening of the ancient and dreaded Pokemon Kaisers? ....And are you going to have enough ammo?

That's right, a Pokemon shooter! In the vein of Contra and Gunstar Heroes, this is a run and game game where you take control of Ace (or his partner, Juli) and start letting the fur fly. The levels are filled with badguys both human and Pokemon, and enough vehicles, powerups, and explosions to make everyone happy. You get four Pokemon at the your disposal: a flight Pokemon for flying levels; a land Pokemon for chase levels; and a shield Pokemon for heavy barrage levels. The fourth is chosen by you (the other three match your character--Ace gets Aerodactyl, Arcanine, and Shelgon) and counts as your "CommLink" to Gamma, the government agency you work for. Its powers vary from refilling ammo to healing you in times of need--it depends on what you pick.

The bosses are usually mechs or what are dubbed "Danger Pokemon," larger or more vicious versions of regular monsters. For example, the first boss is an Zeta soldier in a larger mech suit. Latter bosses may include a Zapdos gone mad or an enemy tank or a gigantic Dragonite or possibly even a swarm of blood-sucking Golbats. There's so many levels, the bosses and enemies are truly endless.

Each Campaign takes place in a different region, with a total of 7 Campaigns. Kanto is the easiest, followed by Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Zeta HQ. The final two are secret. And at the end of a Campaign, or at least just before, you come across the Pokemon Kaisers. As the plot reveals, the Zeta Force are attempting to awaken the most powerful of ancient Pokemon to lay ruin to the earth and, more importantly, world government. And so, each Campaign ends in a massive battle with the Pokemon Kaiser of that region. In Kanto it is Ho-Oh while in Hoenn it's Rayquaza. Smaller "Kaisers", known as Lords, appear throughout Campaigns as well and include Groudon, Darkrai, and others. In all, the Kaisers are: Ho-Oh, Lugia, Rayquaza (a fight as you fall through the sky), Dialga and Palkia, Regigigas, Giratina. Mewtwo is the final Kaiser you fight in the HQ, which makes Regigigas and Giratina the two secret ones. Nicer Pokemon Sovereigns also exist to aid you in your quest, one for each Kaiser: Ho-Oh (Golden), Celebi, Latios and Latias, Cresselia, Manaphy, Mew. Arceus appears at the full completion of the game to relish unlockables on you, including two new characters (an Ash look-alike and a cutesy little girl).

In all, it's meant to be a grittier, more mature Pokemon.

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Pokemon: Sun and Moon Versions

Travel through the region of Surto, an island far away from the known regions, where the Pokemon are tougher and the trainers are meaner. My own version of the Pokemon games, I have over 160 new Pokemon, 8 gyms, an Elite Four, Champion, Legendaries, and loads of new features. Collect and grow mushrooms to create Mushloaf and alter your Pokemon's stats for the Island Mini-Games, or use good old-fashioned Berries to make PokeSlush for Pokemon Contests. Mine and purify ore and stones to customize your trainer with stat-altering jewelery, or stop by the island shops to deck them out with unique clothing and designs. And if you really feel like relaxing, buy property and develop it into your perfect dream house. Surto is a land of opportunity where you can play over Wi-Fi with up to 16 friends, all traveling the island together. Can you catch 'em all?

*Note: I am already beginning to update my DeviantArt page with stuff from this fan game, so keep an eye out!

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[Old Man Rupee]

Very intreagued by that Pokemon Shoot-em-up, it'll never happen of course, but it'd be very cool if it did! But shouldn't you have six pokemon? And a capture gun to "catch em all"? And different pokemon give you different upgrades to your gun! Imagine a fiery gun powered by Moltres energy! Or a Mew gun that can warp reality like a weirder version of Portal!

[Manspeed]

Perhaps I should wedge all my ideas in one thread too?

[kirbychu]

Super Mario Bros. Generations sounds very interesting to me. Nice ideas there! ;D

[TV Eye]

The Mario game does sound good. I'd love a game where you could play as Waluigi...

[Manspeed]

It sounds similar to a bunch of Mario games I thought up back in elementary school...

[Flip]

nintyboyuno said:

Very intreagued by that Pokemon Shoot-em-up, it'll never happen of course, but it'd be very cool if it did! But shouldn't you have six pokemon? And a capture gun to "catch em all"? And different pokemon give you different upgrades to your gun! Imagine a fiery gun powered by Moltres energy! Or a Mew gun that can warp reality like a weirder version of Portal!

The idea of only three Pokemon follows the logic of other non-"Pokemon" Pokemon games, like Trozei or Snap. Six Pokemon is, in reality, a rarity for trainers. And esp. with folks who aren't even trainers (or give two craps about Pokemon other than being beasts of burden of pets), you hardly see more than one, two, or three. Ace keeps Aerodactyl for a flying vehicle, Arcanine is basically his "buddy" who he raised from a Growlithe, and Shelgon is his newest Pokemon who takes bullets for him in battle with its Protect attack.

Juli uses Rapidash rather than Arcanine, Flygon instead of Aerodactyl, and Kirlia instead of Shelgon. They function the same, but she takes better care of her monsters. Ace's are still happy and content, just treated more like a hunter treats his hounds. Juli's are actually her pets, rather than companions. Do you get what I'm saying?

The two other characters are the boy and girl. I forget what I listed them as using, but the girl uses all legendaries and the boy some more unique ones.

But the point was that the Pokemon are like animal helpers and not so much anything else. The CommLink varies in abilities, like I said earlier, and Ace haaaates them because they're usually cutesy. The other characters act differently, but Ace, in general, despises most Pokemon.

[Fryguy64]

I had a similar idea to that first Mario one, with different levels set in locations from different games. I also had a "Big City" stage with Donkey Kong, Mario Bros. and Wrecking Crew enemies (Foreman Spike attacks in a huge wrecking ball tank).

While I'm here, I also had an idea for an extended Super Mario Bros., where each level was expanded, there were more enemies, and the Bowsers at the end of each world actually acted like the enemies they are revealed to be, and must be defeated in different ways.

[TV Eye]

The thing about having different Mario characters playable, is to give you a reason to play as them (like in Mario Bros. 2).

For instance, Mario could be an all around character, Luigi could be weak, but a very good jumper, Wario is strong but slow and not a good jumper (similar to Toad) but also have a charging attack like in the Wario Land series, and Waluigi could be the fastest and have various sports-based attacks.

[Manspeed]

I've had several ideas for Mario games of my own. In elementary school I thought up "Mari-O-Mega", which was a sort of sequel to SM64 that borrowed elements from BK and DK64. It had Mario being able to shoot a limited amount of fireballs that can be replenished with Fire Flowers, and a special "Ninja Mario" that changed the fireballs to rapid-fire shurikens and gives Mario more impressive acrobatic techniques. Other ideas included having Luigi playable with green fireballs, Wario playable with super-strength and spikey mace balls as his replacement for fireballs, a jungle level featuring Donkey Kong I and Donkey Kong Jr., ridable Yoshi, an epic final battle against a Bowser-that-was-Giga-before-Giga Bowser-existed with Mario using a huge star-firing cannon, and some other stuff I can't remember.

A year after that (I think that was fourth grade, making this the fifth) I kept trying to think up something better, so my next idea was a direct SM64 sequel that had 10 worlds, 100 stars, and the Koopalings as bosses. This time I took elements from Banjo-Tooie. After this I tried my hand at thinking up a more linear Mario game with a level hub ripped off of Crash Bandicoot. This idea had stars hidden in each linear level which were required to unlock the boss stages (one of the bosses was the snowman from Snowman's Land!) and 100% and a secret unlockable level would be attained if you got all the stars.

I think from fifth grade onward I thought a crapton of ideas. There was a game which had a premise ripped from Crash 4 where Bowser creates a clone of himself with powers from a group of "elemental stars", another game where Mario can get around using various vehicles and gadgets build by E. Gadd, one of which included a mech suit, a linear game that took place entirely in a sewer system where Mario had to fix pipes using plumbing tools, another idea which was a more conventional Mario game except Mario could use his plumbing tools to help him, a game based on the SMB movie, an outdoor Luigi's Mansion sequel, a game where Mario chases Bowser through time and must traverse worlds based on the past and future, a game with 3D graphics but 2D gameplay like Klonoa or Goemon's Great Adventure, another SM64 type game but with RPG elements, and since then a Mario game that revisits old enemies and locations like the one Flip posted. Oh, and let's not forget all the countless Wario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Mario puzzle, sport, Kart, Party, and RPG variants I thought up in between...

Man, I could make an entire thread about all my Mario game ideas alone!

[Flip]

I think we've all made up crazy Mario games up the wazoo

A weird one I really got into as a kid was a Bowser game that was similar to Conker in that it was just a really, really lousy day in Bowser's life. The gameplay changed genres between levels from a Star Fox-like world to a Mario Bros. world to a Rampart world. And everything was divided by humorous cutscenes, just like Conker. I think the villain was a Bowser from an alternate dimension named Gary, who was a giant T-rex.

I also had a "Nintendo Kingdom Hearts," except it was pre-Kingdom Hearts. It played like FF4 where each character had their own abilities, and you could recruit all sorts of heroes to help out. I talked about it back in the day on these forums.

[Manspeed]

I remember reading that in Smashchu's Nintendo RPG thread. Since then I've been trying like the dickens to come up with something decent along those lines. It's currently under the title of "Nintendo Wars Unlimited", and features a battle system that's a cross between Final Fantasy Tactics, Paper Mario and Fire Emblem. It's also got a "catch 'em all" feature in the form of about 100 different Nintendo superstars, both obscure and secondary, that you can recruit. The main character is a girl with a Wii-remote for a weapon, and I originally chose to name her after this girl I dated for a while. She's still on good terms with me, so I guess I'll keep that.

Before I forget, the only notable Wario idea I can remember was this sequel to Wario World where Wario buys an expensive painting which turns out to be a portal to yet another strange world full of strange enemies and a ruled by a strange evil guy. The goal was to ransack the world of all it's coins, gems and treasures in addition to finding the 300 scattered pieces of the painting (it was a big game). Aside from that I also tried to think up a Wario Land 5 which featured the return of the Bull, Eagle and Dragon power-ups, along with the health bar from WL4 (restored by hearts) and little white gems that gave Wario an extra life at every 100 (because coins didn't). I think there were also five colored gems in each stage that were needed to open the mini-boss's room, and a key that would unlock the next stage (you can tell I'm trying to shoehorn every Wario Land into one big game). Sometimes you'd find a treasure chest that required a specific power-up in order to open, and collecting treasures would unlock stuff (sorta like WL3).

I think my first major Yoshi game idea was called "Yoshi's Journey", and it was fully 3D and went through several stages of development. Early on, I tried to base the worlds off the carried over backgrounds in Tetris Attack/Panel Counter, and Yoshi would've had the ability to switch to another playable friend in each world (you could be Lakitu in the cloud world, Poochy in the forest world, Raphael Raven in the moon world, etc.). This started to pose problems when I couldn't think of a conceivable way to make Gargantuan Blargg playable. Later on it took a different turn with me ripping off elements from Spyro and Croc. First thing I did was redesign Yoshi by giving him an ascot, sweatbands, new shoes and a backpack (which I think started out in concept as Mario having a backpack). The plot of the game would involve Kamek and a relative of Bowser's named Baron van Koopa (dumb name) raiding the Yoshi's village during the hatching of the season's first born, and one of the eggs was really a bird's egg that fell out of a tree. Then when that egg hatched, the baby bird would becomd Yoshi's partner and.... hide in the backpack (worst rip-off ever >.>). So our favorite Yoshi and his new friend Birdy (that was her name) would be the only ones not kidnapped by Kamek's forces, and the goal of the game would be to traverse the Yoshi's Island chain, using both Yoshi and Birdy's abilities to rescue the kidnapped Yoshies and find the puzzle pieces (more Banjo-itis, >_<) that would transport them from world to world. The only other thing I thought up besides that was this ridiculous game I thought up alongside an old friend of mine that was based on the Yoshi's Story engine. The title? "Yoshi's Alien Assault". It was a progressive trilogy of games. The first game gave you a choice of playing as Green Yoshi (spits seeds), Red Yoshi (spits fire), Blue Yosh (spits ice) and Yellow Yoshi (quakes the ground). The goal of the game was to destroy all the aliens in each level, with you fighting the "head" alien at the end of the game. The second game in the series had the aliens headed by a team of multi-colored aliens named "Inko", "Pinko", "Blinko" and "Clydon" (Pac-Man Fever!), and Green Yoshi had to rescue the other three Yoshies at the end of each world. As for the last game, it had one last attempt of the aliens to exact revenge on the Yoshi's for stopping their world domination plans, and this time they have a new member named "Kinko". Likewise, all four Yoshies are available from the start in addition to a new Black Yoshi, whose power I can't remember. That enough wacky ideas for ya?

[Savage Adam]

Man, if I told you all the games I have come up with, you would either die of bordom or of old age.

Among those are a Sonic basketball game where the character IS the ball, massive Kingdom hearts style Nintendo RPGs, a game kinda like Pokemon where you capture Nintendo creatures in Assist trophies, a Sonic MMORPG, a game all about Robotnik and his many robots, a Zelda game with your Mii as the main character, a Wind Waker sequel where those divers in underwear dive to the underwater castle, find the mask salesmans shop and awaken Majoras Mask, who revives Gannondorf and Drains th Great Sea, A Zelda MMORPG, and many many many many many many more.

[Manspeed]

Suddenly I'm on a Bomberman kick, and I'm reminded of some lame ideas I had way before I knew the whole gist of the B-man franchise. There was Bomberman Blast!, which was to be a large crossover of characters who used cherry bombs (Link and Wario were the only ones I could think of at the time, though Bombman, Bomb Jack,, Poppy Bros., Bean the Dynamite and several others would fit nicely) and this was before I knew about Saturn Bomberman's multiplayer mode and Hudson's other games. Then there were lame-ass attempts at casting a game in the most of the retrospectively crappy Bomberman Hero, called "Bomberman Dimention" or something like that. My last notable idea came in the form of Bomberman Legend, which was and adventure based on the medieval setting of Pocket Bomberman, and this was long before I ever found out about the existence of Bomberman Quest and Bomberman Wars, the latter of which was probably crap. The new Bomberman Live for X360 looks like the perfect Bomberman game, though...

The only two notable games I've ever thought up were both named "Donkey Kong Island", one of which had DK getting kidnapped AGAIN, except Diddy was on his own, redesigned with pants and shoes, along with the ability to fight with a staff. Strange, I know. The other idea was more of an improved sequel to DK64 with just Donkey and Diddy, and collectables that were ripped from Rayman 2. Yellow bananas gave a 1-Up at every 100 collected, green bananas served as a checkpoint, red bananas restored health, blue bananas restored air when underwater, purple bananas teleported you from one place to another, and silver bananas were the game's big important plot device. I think I eventually redid this include Dixie and Kiddy, a multi-combo partner system, a world hub stolen from Crash again, a playable Funky Kong, and Banana Fairies trapped in crystal balls as an important collectible. So far I'm still working on it.

Sometimes I'd try to think up games based on the arcade DK, one of which was a game where DK lets loose an army of monkeys (couldn't decide if they should be Ukikis or generiKongs) and Mario has to recapture them with a net, like a 2D version of Ape Escape based on the Mario vs. DK engine. There were even stages where you had to chase the monkeys back into their cages a la the Mini-Mario levels.

[Goomba Joe]

Wow, awesomeness overload...

Those ALL sound brilliant, especially Mario Generations and Pokemon Gamma. <3

...You were BunyipFlip all this time? I never knew XD