Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 17, 2009 22:16:49 GMT -5
@ Koopaul - Not necessarily. It could be a sort of war memorial or something. @ Kirbychu - I never said I thought so. I said they could be speculated to be Sheikah. Also note that Hyrule's anywhere from the size of Detroit to the size of its Metro, not quite as big as Africa, so it's alot less small-scale and such a mistake is alot more possible to make. Also note that Kakariko was, up until Impa opened it up, a Sheikah village (the guard at Impa's house says so.) Since Impa is clearly younger than Granny (Impa's got smooth skin and an athletic body, implying youth, at least relatively to Granny,) if Granny was born in Kakariko (prior to Impa even existing,) she's a Sheikah. Mutoh is similar, having the wrinkled skin of an older person (though he's definately keeping himself well, being that he is fit for physical labor,) so again, if he was born in Kakariko, he's a Sheikah. As such, if Mutoh was born in Kakariko, Anju and Grog are at least half Sheikah (if their mother isn't a Sheikah) or full Sheikah (if Granny is their mother or their mother is a Sheikah.) There's apparently some relationship between Granny and Grog, and I keep hearing it's a blood connection, so, due to age difference, it really has to be mother-son or gramma-gramkid. That's the POSSIBLE connection to the Sheikah that little family of four has.
Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 18, 2009 13:32:33 GMT -5
Where did you get the notion I'm assuming anything about their place of birth? What I'm saying is quite clear: If Granny and Mutoh were born in Kakariko, they are Sheikah, and Anju and Grog are at least half-Sheikah if Mutoh was born in Kakariko. If I am assuming they were Kakariko-born, it's only to carry my point.
Sorry. I guess I'm just used to theories being based on evidence, rather than... wild guessing. I mean... there's no evidence there that even hints that these people are Sheikah, other than the fact that they live in Kakariko, a village open to all races. We know that there are very, very few Sheikah left after the war, I think a whole family of them would be significant.
Plus, y'know... every character ever hinted to be one in the series so far has had red eyes. That being the only defining trait of the Sheikah, you'd think they'd have them if they were. We might as well be wondering if Anju's a Zora. After all, she has no defining traits of one!
And yet another thread has reached levels of madness that even I find astounding.
Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 19, 2009 1:35:23 GMT -5
It wasn't wild guessing. It was intended merely to keep minds open. I never said I believe these characters to be Sheikah because I don't. There's no evidence that they are. Just some conclusions that could be made based on the available information. I'm simply reminding everyone that not everything is what it appears in Zelda, and while yes, I did intend this to be taken seriously, it was intended to give you something to think about, not actually believe. The point wasn't that these characters are Sheikah but that we don't have any identification of these characters to prove they aren't. Kafei has the red eyes, does that make him a Sheikah? Because people argue him both ways. Similarly, people argue that some characters are Sheikah in spite of not being red-eyed. Off hand, I don't have any examples (I don't concern myself with the eye-color of every character in the series and I should be asleep right now anyways so I'm not going to waste any more time looking for evidence, I'm ass-tired,) but I know this to be the case.
Anyways. I'm done for the night. I'll add on to this later. G'night.
Okay. Well, then I apologize. I thought you had just gone batshit loco.
For future reference, "there's no evidence to say it is, but you can't prove that it isn't" is not the way to get people thinking. It's the way to get people thinking you're nuts. This, on the other hand, did get me thinking. Because, even if it is speculation, it has reasons for the speculation.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Dec 19, 2009 13:12:49 GMT -5
It's alright. Sometimes I say stuff and it just doesn't come out right.
Had I more time I'd have used a different phrase, but I was tired, like I said, I should have bee asleep. A more accurate translation would be "There is just as much evidence for Anju being a Sheikah as there is for her being a Hylian, though the problem with the evidence for her being a Sheikah is circumstantial." The entire idea was based on the possibility of them being Kakarikoan. If there are any Kakarikoans who have been there prior to Impa opening it up still alive, they're automatically Sheikah, as evidenced by several quotes. On another note, I find the Tombstone Plaque (the big one when you first walk into the graveyard) an interesting hint at Dampe's geneology.
Ah, the Stone Tower theory. I know that theory. In fact, my own theory (page 1) takes elements from it (because I found a couple discrepencies in it when I first read it that I found were rectified in my own theory.)
So let me get this straight, I already know that Spirit Tracks took place a century after The Hero of Winds arc.
All this time, most of it are basically alternate futures, I am assuming
I don't know... There's no reason to assume the timeline splits even more. There was a reason that the timeline split from the beginning, Link did something to provoke that. But there was nothing to provoke further splitting.
Nester the Lark: ^ Reminds me that Xanadu Next also had a randomly-generated post-game dungeon. You needed to go into it many times, getting a little further each time, but it was different every time you re-entered. It was very grindy. I never did finish it.
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